Same for the post about the Vanilla flavor, where I’m the author as well. If the reason is because I’m the author, then I shouldn’t even be able to enter any text. I shouldn’t see the link to add the comment. I wonder if the workflow is a bit more complex because I’m an admin and I see the link when regular users don’t?
@DaSupremo@Xeno_WMF I’m trying to reproduce the problem of “wrong ice cream post” but I can’t. I’m testing desktop, and I was wondering whether you had posted from mobile. Also, do you remember which button you click to create your ice cream proposal? Was it the “Answer” white button at the top, the “Reply” blue button at the bottom, or something else?
Please ignore! I see this is a known bug that was fixed just a few hours ago.
@Olugold your post about chocolate with toppings has disappeared as well. Sorry! There is a problem and it seems that is being fixed as we speak. Did you send your ice cream flavor recommendation via email, by any chance?
Funny, when we discussed reactions, you said that having only positive reactions wasn’t good enough, and that we needed critical reactions too. But yes, I can see how this can be a topic where different people has different opinions.
The technical answer is that there is no setting to remove downvoting per topic or in general. I guess it can be removed from the UI via CSS, but that would mean disabling downvoting altogether.
This is just my opinion: I think that downvoting is fine in this context. Yes, it’s not nice when your proposal is below zero, but on the other hand this gives three mathematical options per person, and in the end asking who agrees / who disagrees is pretty standard when discussing proposals?
You are right @Qgil-WMF - I may be having conflicting minds myself, especially after reading others’ comments . I like the and signs that got added though from that previous discussion, I used them myself. I guess when I initially mentioned it, I was thinking about the voting is just about the topic itself (as a stand alone item) - I did not imagine the scenarios when it has a “competition” element (like what we are seeing from the ice cream post). When I saw visually it actually means it would be quite clear which ideas are better supported and which are not - and to the extent some would go into minus (where it visually says -2 or something like that) and the post would go to the bottom - I guess that felt differently and I was just imagining how would I feel if I were the individual who put forward that idea.
But overall, as you said, when discussing proposals who agree or disagree that should be quite standard. And I stand with my previous thought that there should be a way that someone can express they disagree with something - the burden shouldn’t lie with those who disagree to give long explanation - so please do treat my comment above just as a reflection after seeing how things look like visually. You are right on the technical limitation on things.
We’ll see when we have this feature in place for real situations. If the current ice cream vote is any good reference… Right there are only three options with negative votes. Two are duplicates, and in this case it is very convenient to push them to the bottom of the list without having to delete them. The third one is… chocolate, not precisely a fringe, exotic, fragile option. Only one person downvoted it (gasp, it was me), and if other people would feel bad about this, they could easily upvote it. However, somehow it isn’t happening, which is interesting (in the context of a silly ice cream flavor vote).